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I'm Gypsy, Cherokee, Irish & Spanish. A labyrinth in a Panda coating. The heyoka shadow-jester that shines in the darkness, for the service of Light. You wanna know more personally, hit me up...

Professionally I am a writer fueled by Earl Grey, fried chicken, and fury. I have come to accept the assertions that I am Poe incarnate, due to frightening life and personality similarities. Now I just live and rock it proudly. My pen is untamed; a tool of logic, intuition, and duality. I was inspired to be unabashedly blunt in my philosophical writings and expression by the legacy of Hunter S. Thompson. I have just enough give-no-fuck to make all my comedic heroes proud; but because I also admire and got into writing because of timeless works like Dracula, PTO, Frankenstein, and writers like Austen and more...I also have deeper, more varied projects and hopes. The pen can shape worlds, and if you become a master...it can help re-shape them as well.

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Counselor of many; restorer of broken, tarnished or forgotten things~seller of antiques and exotics. Merlin of the Written and Spoken Word lol... and a slight bit of madman as well ;)

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For me to know, and you to find out~if you can handle it,

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Posted on 05/19/2015 by Gentleman_Casper   
"Storms are the the culminating of the Earth's raw creative force, to balance and improve all things unto a core fathomless design. It's why their wake is renewal, and often light. As independently living reflections of Creation...if you strive, strive to the fullest with this to guide you. Being as the beautiful, awe-inspiring sacred storm that changes and/or corrects nature, is about straightforward focus. Simply Never forget to speak like lightning, and make moves like thunder...
• Have your words be vibrant and direct; scorching your point deep where you put it.
• Have your efforts and actions be as thunder; heralding who and what you are, roaring your arrival and/or purpose, and echoing on...as you are nothing trivial or soon forgotten. One with only more to come." ~Gypsy J. Sunfox

  • Posted on 06/19/2015 by DevilGabrielle   
    ¿You give me one or more votes if I give you the incentive you want?
    https://www.zivity.com/models/DevilGabrielle/photosets/4 SET "ANGEL"
    Kisses :D

  • Posted on 02/01/2015 by Gentleman_Casper   
    From the dirt they rise, some called diamonds in the rough...others called polished devils to society. From that same soil deemed forsaken for all but the breeding of vermin, came he. Finding shine in the blackest inks gave him purpose, and from all he'd survived, a cause too. The blatant cruelty and disregard of sleep-walkers & rotted hearts gave him pause though; in this society as it stands in false polish and virtues betrayed...what was he to do to both survive, and find value?

  • Posted on 03/29/2015 by DevilGabrielle   
    You will appreciate it if you visit my new set https://www.zivity.com/models/DevilGabrielle/photosets/2.
    I hope you like my pictures.
    Give me a vote if you like.
    Kisses ♥

  • Posted on 03/07/2015 by Madison_Rexx   
    Hey! Thanks so much for accepting my FR :)
    Here's my latest set if you'd like to check it out http://www.zivity.com/models/Madison_Rexx/photosets/3

  • Posted on 03/07/2015 by DevilGabrielle   
    Hello beauty,Thank you for accepting.
    Please check my new set "Fire in the forest" https://www.zivity.com/models/DevilGabrielle/photosets/1 and tell me what ya think! If you like it vote please!
    Happy day ♥
    ¡¡Hot greetings!! ♥

  • Posted on 02/08/2015 by Mari0n   
    Hey!! thank you for the add!!
    Hope you have a great weekend!!

  • Posted on 02/09/2015 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I am happy to. You have enchanting work, it and you glow.

  • Posted on 02/07/2015 by Joy Miaussy   
    thanks for add, have a good weekend!

  • Posted on 02/09/2015 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Thank you for accepting, zivity girls of Chile are so nice & fun. Makes me want to go there even more than I already do.

  • Posted on 02/09/2015 by Joy Miaussy   
    Thanks cute! <3

  • Posted on 02/05/2015 by MelanieLittleman   
    Thank you for adding me as a friend!! :D XOXO

  • Posted on 02/09/2015 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Always glad to communicate with new people & reach out just a little more. I look forward to more sets too.

  • Posted on 02/01/2015 by TheBabyDoe   
    Congrats on all the awesome new things in your life!

  • Posted on 02/09/2015 by Gentleman_Casper   
    THANK YOU, and how have you been?

  • Posted on 02/12/2015 by TheBabyDoe   
    busy but in a good way <3 :) New stuff on the way :)

  • Posted on 12/09/2014 by Jetsabelle   
    Hello friend! how are you? are you ready for Christmas? yayyy happy holidays !!!
    I hope you have a good week
    kisses and hugs from Chile ! <3 *O* n _n

  • Posted on 12/09/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Espero estar listo a tiempo, me voy a casar en Año Nuevo. Gracias por los besos y abrazos, justo detrás en usted. (I'm still learning lol)

  • Posted on 12/09/2014 by Jetsabelle   
    do not worry! OMG I wish you well in your marriage, should be something really beautiful I hope you're happy hahaha <3 :p

  • Posted on 12/02/2014 by MademoiselleCherie   
    hey there, how are you ?

  • Posted on 11/27/2014 by Meglynn   
    I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
    Sincerely,
    Meglynn

  • Posted on 11/06/2014 by Meglynn   
    Hi Gentleman_Casper! I wanted to let you know I have a new set up! I had a very fun time wearing my pvc dress, cat ears, and cat tail for Halloween! I hope you view my set, and I hope you enjoy it.

    https://www.zivity.com/models/Meglynn/photosets/11

    Happy belated Halloween & have a great day,
    Meglynn

  • Posted on 10/20/2014 by Jetsabelle   
    Hello how are you? hope you have a nice week kisses and hugs <3 <3 <3

  • Posted on 10/19/2014 by Vivka   
    Thank you so much! <3

  • Posted on 10/19/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Glad to ;)

  • Posted on 10/07/2014 by Eleanor   
    I am offering *really* amazing incentives on my set Busty Birthday Bash today! Please check it out: https://www.zivity.com/models/Eleanor/photosets/15

  • Posted on 09/30/2014 by MissLoLo   
    Hello! hugs to start your day (: i am bidding summer a fond farewell in my new set 'sand and seduction'. i hope it catches your eye♥

  • Posted on 09/19/2014 by Meglynn   
    Hi Gentleman :) It's been a while!I hope you're doing well. I wanted to let you I have a new set up. where I explore an old industrial building with a short dress, fishnet stockings, and heels! It's shot with a photographer that's brand new Zivity, so it's a very new perspective!
    https://www.zivity.com/models/Meglynn/photosets/9
    Have a great day,
    Meglynn

  • Posted on 09/01/2014 by Eleanor   
    How is your weekend going Dear?

  • Posted on 09/01/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Colorful, like the week has been lol. Dancing between destruction and creation you might say, as I write & wait for the net to be reliable enough to get the blog site up next week. Yourself?

  • Posted on 09/04/2014 by Eleanor   
    I've been good. Did you get the blog site up?

  • Posted on 09/04/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I want this project to be more than just myself, so I am waiting to hear back from a few people about if they will be admins & bloggers. Btw you interested? Email me & I'll send details. I'm shooting for the end of next week. While I wait for everything from everyone, I bog and have things to take care of for myself too. Either way, I will be up by September 10th.

  • Posted on 09/08/2014 by Eleanor   
    I have WAY too much on my plate to take on another project right now, sadly. But good luck! I look forward to seeing it in a few days. :)

  • Posted on 09/30/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    It took longer than expected due to small hiccups, but do check out the public blog & site:
    http://alien8ed-logic.ning.com/knave-of-gambles
    ...there's even more if you join.

  • Posted on 07/28/2014 by Osita   
    Thanks for the add! Do you have any of your writing on a blog or anything? I'm intrigued! :)

  • Posted on 07/28/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Honestly, right mow in my life it's a miracle that I managed to put out those two books. Everything is pretty much on hold until I either get the books circulating more, or can get hooked up with an agent. The clock it ticking til I am on the street again, and my pen is all I have to stop it. If you do read either one though, you do me honor ;)

  • Posted on 07/28/2014 by Osita   
    Haha I know how it goes! Hopefully I'll get to check out your book at some point, right now I don't have an address so it's pretty hard to order anything lol

  • Posted on 09/30/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I now have a blog/site: http://alien8ed-logic.ning.com/knave-of-gambles

    Consider joining; not only is there more in-depth blogs from more than just myself...but the site is still expanding in that regard.

  • Posted on 07/26/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    You beautiful woman, I am flattered you would ask my opinion. I will give it serious thought personalized to the style and essence of the personality in your sets & page and get back to you very soon. In the meantime, feel free to message me any thoughts you may be brewing on, I'd love to hear them.

  • Posted on 07/15/2014 by cuttie   
    https://www.zivity.com/models/cuttie/photosets/1 check my first set and give me some love <3! xoxo

  • Posted on 07/14/2014 by ClockworkCalamity   
    Thank you for accepting my friend request! Hope things are well for you :-) Bacon bikini set that I've been going on about is live, so have a look and let me know what you think! Take care! https://www.zivity.com/models/ClockworkCalamity/photosets/7

  • Posted on 07/11/2014 by Vader   
    Thanks for the add! I'll have to check out your writing :)

  • Posted on 09/30/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    http://alien8ed-logic.ning.com/knave-of-gambles
    ;)

  • Posted on 07/03/2014 by Meglynn   
    Hello Gentleman_Casper,
    I have a new set out, Loving Those Cupcakes: https://www.zivity.com/models/Meglynn/photosets/7! I got to eat cupcakes, then strip and rub icing on myself. It was a lot of fun! I hope you view and enjoy it!
    Have a great day,
    Meglynn

  • Posted on 06/26/2014 by Meglynn   
    Hi Gentleman_Casper,

    My newest set is up; Shades Outtakes! https://www.zivity.com/models/Meglynn/photosets/6 It's for the prize: Only the Outtakes! It has a signed polaroid incentive! I hope you view it and enjoy.

    Have a wonderful day,
    Meglynn

  • Posted on 06/26/2014 by Eleanor   
    <3

  • Posted on 06/27/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    That had good timing, and seeing it today made me smile.

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Dekilah   
    Just one week left in June, wow! Time seems to be flying this month for me! How are things going for you?

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Busy too, hoping to have EVERYTHING sewn up by the first...so many pieces in play. I got back on the novel right after I sent the latest book off to you last night. The novel should be in process by tomorrow at the latest though, so that is good. Still juggling though, trying to give the flying time a run for it's money lol

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Dekilah   
    Yay ^_^ I'll start on the new one tomorrow and it shouldn't take more than a day or two.

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    You, madam, are an understated Goddess ;) Thankyou. I think you may like it...never thought I'd actually put all that in a book, but it just happened that way. I though of tying it in...but some things just have to be openly who you are with no mirrors.

  • Posted on 06/25/2014 by Dekilah   
    I thought it was pretty darn awesome ^_^ I won't give anything way, but I really enjoyed it ^_~

  • Posted on 06/10/2014 by Meglynn   
    Hello Gentleman Casper, I hope you're having a great day so far!

    I wanted to let you know that I have a new set up called Shades in the Shade:

    https://zivity.com/models/Meglynn/photosets/5

    I hope you enjoy it, and have a nice rest of the day!

  • Posted on 06/07/2014 by StoneNYC   
    Casper, Sir, Gentleman and ethereal ghost, I thank you for accepting my friendship, you have a way with words. Be well, and of course enjoy my sets, I have 2 more coming soon, the second of which I think you'll truly enjoy as it's kind of dream like. Be well. ~Stone

  • Posted on 06/06/2014 by Dekilah   
    I hope things are going well ^_^ Just wanted to stop by and show your wall some love

  • Posted on 06/07/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I won't deny that I "hit the wall" as walkin' folk say, was barely on function for a few days and have no idea why. but, it picked back up yesterday, now today is hard burn time. Editing, plus to other projects ;) No rest for the wicked.

  • Posted on 05/28/2014 by Vera Baby   
    Hello Hello !! Haven't been on zivity in some time. Thought I would stop in and say hi. Let you know I'm back for a bit :)

  • Posted on 06/01/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Good madam, your awesomeness and social attitude has been missed. Hit me up anytime; I'm neck deep in writing morbid horror, but God knows I love lively communication ;)

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Vera Baby   
    oh you are too kind. Writing morbid horror? that's awesome, writers are always the best people. Same goes to you, I'm a social butterfly always happy to chat ;)

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I'll have to send you a message,, for now I gotta hit up a box of Pecan Honey bunches. Still gotta finishout the edits on the post-apocalypse novel before I can sleep.

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Vera Baby   
    Hard worker. It's a good quality to have :)

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Even though I'm relieved it's the last read-through...I've read this so many times my eyes want to jump out of my head bleeding, and bitch-slap me until I beg for absolution. But, I wrote in a lot of Zivity friends, and my best friends rap group...IT MUST BE DONE. I had to stop for a week to write a random book, or it would be already...ADD has uses lol

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Vera Baby   
    bah-haha! :P You're funny

  • Posted on 06/24/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    At least now I'll have two books out by the first, hook beautiful women up with publicity & open up opportunity to do it more through the series, and then all I really need to focus on is "Owls Eyes In Hell" I told you about, and the next book in the series...and the poetry book...and migraine pills in bulk might be good.

  • Posted on 05/22/2014 by wolfsoul   
    and where have YOU been all this time? Hope everything's okay! Sending some hugs your way now...

  • Posted on 05/22/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I've been tucked away, I'm wrestling with some things. I wish I knew what to say beyond that.

  • Posted on 05/25/2014 by wolfsoul   
    oh damn! that sounds complex! Of course we all need time to settle things and get better, so I respect your time. I do miss reading your beautiful words but this break will only make them better! Stay strong, purple poet! I shall wait for your return!

  • Posted on 04/30/2014 by CowboyDavePhotography   
    Thanks for accepting my friend request. I hope things are going well. Nice to meet you!!

  • Posted on 04/09/2014 by LlaraMadisonEvans   
    Hello hello again love. I hope you have an awesome week. Dont miss out on my new lovely red dress to nude at frozen waterfall set! I just love this one ♥ as well as my new mummy mommy set for the cosplay prize. Its interesting ;) But keep watching the pinup prize for my entry coming this week yaaay it came out perfect :D xoxoxoxo ♥♥

  • Posted on 03/22/2014 by ClevelandFineArt   
    Thanks for voting for What to Read

  • Posted on 03/21/2014 by Meglynn   
    I'd be happy to get cozy with your books when they come out! I love reading. :)

  • Posted on 03/21/2014 by Meglynn   
    Thanks so very much for your 3 votes on What To Read! It is much appreciated.
    Much love,
    Meg

  • Posted on 03/21/2014 by Meglynn   
    Thanks so much for your friendship!
    Have a lovely day,
    Meg

  • Posted on 03/19/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    If you ever need an editor let me know; I'm actually very good at it and would be happy to help anyone looking to work with the pen. It's just bad to self-edit because you always miss things lol. If you have any unfinished projects you would be interested in collaborating to finish email me, I LOVE working with good people on new things, it makes the writing so much more.

  • Posted on 03/19/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Absolutely gorgeous, I love your chest tattoo btw, I'm debating whether or not to get a sacred heart chest piece done.

  • Posted on 03/07/2014 by LlaraMadisonEvans   
    Hello love :* Its Friday! I hope you have a wonderful weekend and get a chance to enjoy my new Rising Venus set in the Goddess prize. Great new incentives love even one vote deems you worthy of my lil hello video <3 Don't miss out <3

  • Posted on 03/07/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I came, I saw, I voted ;0 lovely work darlin' I hope you are well, shoot me an email. I am back to work, I'm shooting to get done with a comedy book from start to finish in the next 24 hours. No rest for the wicked, and so rarely wicked in the funnest ways ;( lol Work, work, work...

  • Posted on 03/07/2014 by LlaraMadisonEvans   
    Awesomeness love ;) your message is on its way. Goos luck with your comedy book <3

  • Posted on 03/11/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I took a break to network/promote, as my published book is presently free.

  • Posted on 02/17/2014 by zerotia   
    thanks for the add, how are you?

  • Posted on 02/19/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Thank you as well, for dropping by. I've been busy juggling projects and escapades lol. Though from now till the 25th I'll be losing myself in a post-apocalypse. Hopefully I'll finish early, and catch up on song-writing for some friends. And you?

  • Posted on 02/19/2014 by zerotia   
    Haha aw I wish you the best of luck!
    I'm okay, wishing I could fall back asleep haha

  • Posted on 03/11/2014 by Gentleman_Casper   
    if you find yourself unable to sleep again over the next couple days...my book is free for now ;)

  • Posted on 01/31/2014 by TheBabyDoe   
    Hey babe- have you seen my newest set? Check it out & let me know what you think xo :) https://www.zivity.com/models/TheBabyDoe/photosets/9

  • Posted on 12/24/2013 by KatrinaWhite   
    Happy Christmas Eve Darling! :) I probably won't be online again until after Christmas so I wanted to make sure I wished you a merry one now!! :) <3

  • Posted on 12/24/2013 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Thank you very much, you as well.

  • Posted on 12/26/2013 by KatrinaWhite   
    Thanks sweetie! :) I hope yours was great!! <3

  • Posted on 12/04/2013 by Kealani   
    Oh hey...I was just emailing you back...I'm excited to check out your book! :)

  • Posted on 11/15/2013 by minuitstorm   
    Hope you're having a great weekend! If you'd like, take a look at my two latest sets and let me know what you think: http://www.zivity.com/models/minuitstorm/photosets/21 and http://www.zivity.com/models/minuitstorm/photosets/22

  • Posted on 11/11/2013 by SonnieMarie   
    hello hello! thank you for the add dear!

  • Posted on 11/04/2013 by TheBabyDoe   
    Hello, good morning! Nice to meet you! You re quite the epic writer aren't you? Keep it up & swing by anytime!

  • Posted on 11/04/2013 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I appreciate the compliment, thank you! Usually anything I post on here NOT business/project related is usually just my cryptic brain steam. Motion & promotion if you will, I need fans & folk to help get my books around in November when I start busting out to or three a month. On here I can be myself openly & honestly. So I post pretty regularly. Good to meet you too...back to work for me ;)

  • Posted on 11/02/2013 by Gentleman_Casper   
    WHAT'S ON MY CRAZY MIND, IF YOU WERE INTERESTED LOL:

    I realized something listening to music of my people. I can have a home, a circle/family, whatever you want to call it~but that doesn't change that I'm a Gypsy and never will. I am a union of impossibilities, a living storm, claimed by the Thunderbird. When I love, I love until it brakes me~when I'm lied to, I can't abide it, and never forget to be honest. I gave my heart to the Moon a decade ago, the earth grounds me, Wind moves me on, and Rain heals me better than anything. I've been the "Blue Devil" since I was 17; and that has become all that most can see because its almost all that's left. I can go through ghettos and Hells~shy of my homeland~and I still love the silver lining I find...because there's fathoms more than people imagine. Until someone can see and stand by me for the same reason~to see and make Heaven in each others eyes, no matter if even Hell surrounds...than nothing will keep me beyond the perpetuated moment. Nothing less matters, because nothing less is real. No matter who, this is WHO I AM, its who I've always been that's just the deal. Feliz Dia De Los Muertos ;)

  • Posted on 10/30/2013 by TygerGreenleaf   
    Thank you so much for accepting my friend request!

  • Posted on 10/29/2013 by MsMadilynnMinx   
    Where can I read this poetry book for my inspiration? :)

  • Posted on 10/29/2013 by Gentleman_Casper   
    Just Gmail me a promise of the property's safety & confidentiality in your custody at the above address, and I will email mail you a unpolished/unformatted copy back. However, I am SERIOUSLY OUT OF data on my phone lol, so depending when I get it, it may be after Halloween. But, hit me & I'll send back ASAP ;)

  • Posted on 10/18/2013 by Gentleman_Casper   
    I LOVE THAT MY BABY NEPHEW STAKED HIS CLAIM TO MY SACRED THUNDERBIRD RING! <3
    I knew he would, he has his father's soul, and hawks eyes~ some form of the Thunderbird path is in his destiny. Crow eyes see both sides, Eagle eyes see what's to come, hawk eyes see how to guide people to and through there, owl eyes show truth down to the soul & goals.When he finds his path, I give him my ring. I wear it because until I am granted my prayer for a true, passionate love & peaceful life~it's my only purpose.The Thunderbird restores/keeps balance in the world around them, they uphold the ancient/natural laws, harshly when necessary. Heyoka are chosen human family & representatives of that destiny on earth during their mortal life.

  • Posted on 10/27/2013 by MissLoLo   
    hey hun! thanks for being friends (: hope you have a great start to your week. stop by anytime! xox

  • Posted on 10/20/2013 by Teva   
    Thank you for accepting my friend request! Hope you are having a good weekend ♥

  • Posted on 10/11/2013 by Gentleman_Casper   
    ADMITTEDLY, I have a ravenous animal's hunger for...passion. I believe anything with too many rules, regulations & complications~it just ain't real, and can't be enjoyed by anyone~that shit is just an act that wastes everyone precious time, life & energy. The object is to go WITH someone, to your limits, go beyond them & redefine them everytime. I love making a woman lose control; its why I studied the female body & sexual technique, and practiced all since I was 16...still do. I had a bar to raise being in a wheelchair~you either blow every stereotype & notion out of the water and make them forget everything...or don't bother setting sail. Its how I live, applied it to everything, but ESPECIALLY to love & romance. You either make yourself indispensable, or you will be dispensed...haven't mastered keeping that last bit from happening when I venture beyond the moment though lol...
    SO IT OCCURS TO ME I HAVE THREE OPTIONS:

    1) Go full-blown reborn Porthos the Pirate [ I do hope you've read a Three Musketeers book or two, or this will sound wrong ] making myself hunter and socialite of wench, waitress & working ladies of such business. While I have no qualms with such PROFESSIONAL women, who do so as a life choice~times are different~I abhor drug-addiction, hate pimps, and if there is a tragedy in those eyes...I am endowed to see it in detail to say the least. That, and too many from my neighborhoods & background go that route~I've helped many come back from it...and so that complicates and makes me hesitant.

    2) Enlist on & surf a "casual encounter" site(s), finding people of similar openness, appetite etc. Downside being; to run into the previously stated dislikes, inherent health risks to always beware of~and of course the fact that you never truly know who you're really dealing with until its too late. No one wants a Bobbitt, Vanilla Sky, Swim Fan, or Buffalo Bob type...got my own set o' walnuts...the aim is to keep them healthy & happy. The hope is to share that shade of joy, not ruin it. But once again, the times have changed~it has been suggested I am behind those times & THAT is the best and wisest step. I just don't know yet?

    3) Find a gorgeous, equally insatiable woman [ GOOD LUCK lol ] who had/has an extreme crush on Wolverine, as his fiction, would my very real genetic strengths, unique gifts, and personality easier to accept/love. Downside being, HOW EASY IS THAT TO FIND? And sure, they think its all a joke, or entertaining at first~then they see it's not, it's actually my life & I'm a circus freak lol...then they get weirded and bounce, best case scenario. That, and it takes being far too open about who I am, and the life I've had...cant even guarantee how long this will stay up after saying what I have, but fuckitol.

    THE QUESTION REMAINS & LINGERS THOUGH...what in SHINY-FUCK to do from here to solve my dilemma and woes...?

Zivity loves you too.